Estafet 2 | Video Interview with Janine Booij

Transcript ENGLISH

So hello everyone and welcome to our next episode of Estafet, where we meet our colleagues from Earth and we get to know them with some questions and answers. And today we have lovely Janine with us. We are back to Holland today and so we’re going to learn about Janine and how she works and a little bit more about her. Hi Janine, how are you today?

Hi Anna. I’m good. Thank you for inviting me for this interview. Thank Olga as well.

Yes, very happy to have you here with us today. And so we’ll just start if you could introduce yourself and where you from and where do you live now?

Yes, well, my name, you know, Janine Boy. I’m from the Netherlands. I was born in a small village, Nieuwkorp in the Netherlands. But I don’t remember much of that because my parents moved to Duifenrecht just aside Amsterdam, attached to Amsterdam when I was one year old. So I grew up there and I still live in Amsterdam now.

Okay, nice. So you live in Amsterdam. Nice. And what is your education or your profession if what have you studied in your life?

Yes, that’s a lot. So I’ll just give a short summary. I did a bachelor in communications, journalism, editing, copywriting. And I worked in that for a long time actually. Also when I started doing other educations at some point I. I got some fiscal complaints. I wasn’t really on the right track for me, I felt. And that brought me to a soul search and to looking actually to resolve my problems. I had a lot of tension, repetitive strain injury. And so I first went more the physical way, like massages, kinesiology and gradually I. I went more to the psychological way. But it’s always combined. I felt that from the beginning, body and mind. So I did educations. Yeah, at some point I didn’t need it for my own complaints anymore, but I was just interested in actually all the alternative remedies and I did a bit of research there in education. So I did still freelance writing work and then I started doing massage courses and also starting a practise with that. Kinesiology, healing methods, all kinds of things. And finally. Well, finally I still do some other things as well, but. But regret I found regression therapy and. But that was really for me the thing that I was looking for. Then I felt I’m on the right track now.

Yes, like many of us also find this way. And how did you actually find out or learned about regression therapy?

Yeah, also that came on my path in different ways. At some point I had in a meditation I had a vision of a past life for myself that gave an answer to me, like, why is this pattern coming back to me all the time? And it was just one flashlight, but it was like a photograph. And I felt, okay, that’s me. So I’m like, oh, what’s happening here? And. Yeah, then there were different. Different ways I sort of avoided it in the beginning. I’m like, okay, I know it, that’s enough. But then at some point, I was in Thailand for. Yeah, just for a holiday. And I did a fasting course there. And there was a lady from Luxembourg and she was a regression therapist and she introduced herself and. And she offered sessions and she said, well, we don’t necessarily go to past lives, but if it comes up, we explore. And, yeah, she seemed nice. So I did a session with her and a lot, yeah, I went into that past life that I already had a glimpse of. Also, other things came up. My grandfather and the childhood memories. So it was very emotional but also very healing. And she said after the session, well, you seem to have a feeling for this, so maybe you’re in the Netherlands. There’s Hans Deam, he teaches this. Maybe look into a course with him. And then after that, I did some other things. I forgot the name, actually. And then in my practise, I got more and more people, also with the physical work that I did with the massages that came up with like, well, first of all, emotions. And in the bodywork they always say, like, oh, just let people cry and then they’ll be okay. But it didn’t work all the time. So I started asking a bit more about what was coming up. And, you know, they would describe pictures or situations either in childhood, but also sometimes past lives. And at some point I had this lady that came into past life. She was all coughing and turning blue, almost crying, coughing. And she came into a past life where she was tied up with her husband that had died. He was a prominent figure in the society and it was a culture. I’m not sure where it was. But the widow would be buried together with her husband and she was still alive. So it was very emotional, very painful. And so I just, you know, let her cough and I let her cry. But it didn’t end. Then at some point I remembered from my session, so I said like, okay, so just imagine that you leave your body and you look from above at your body. What’s happening? And then she came, she became all calm and it worked. And I was actually surprised. But after that I’m like, okay, Now I need to know more about it. And I started looking for this guy she’d been talking about and the education and then I started the course with Tasso.

So you did. You went to the Tasso school in.

Amsterdam or Amersfoor at that point it was Utrecht in the middle of the Netherlands.

Yes, and so that was my next question. So I have the answer to it. Also. You went to Tasso with hands and. Yeah. Great. And so now. So you attended that. And so how is being regression therapist is a part of your life? What work do you do now and how do you combine?

Yeah, I. I work now as a regression therapist. I. I have my own practise and I also. I do some massage, but more regression therapy. I also do constellation work. And I teach for Tasso. So it’s a big part of my professional life, but it’s also, yeah, a big part of my life in general. I feel with. I used to work for companies and doing editing and communication and it was more a role I played. But with regression therapies, yeah, you can’t play a role. You have to be authentic, otherwise you can’t work with people. People. And so it feels like it’s me.

And how did it actually help you? So you work now as a therapist, but how do you see the regression therapy helped you as a person? I mean, you already mentioned a few things. Are there anything else that you would like to share, like how it actually affected you and your life?

Yeah, well, in many ways I think mostly that I feel more in peace with myself, just being more true to myself, more authentic. Going more with the flow of life and also. What my feelings are, where my heart goes, I want to go. And I feel that I’m getting the help to do that. And yes, and the work, it’s like I’m on my path. I may not be at the end of the path, but I feel I’m on track.

Yeah. Wonderful. Are there any special techniques that you like the most in regression or that you maybe have used the most? Or do you mix?

Yeah, I do mix things. Actually. I use many methods, but for Tasso, in the last year in the Dutch school, we have like our own project that you do kind of research with a method that you like to explore. And I worked with the induction by touch. So touching people. And asking for the emotions, so maybe like the place with the most tension in the body or the less energy in the body and then ask them to go into it, get the emotions and go from there into regression. Also with breath Work. Finding the blockages through breath. Work. And then, you know, when the breath doesn’t go in, there’s often something. Yeah. Some unresolved emotions that are stuck there. So you can easily get into the emotions and let them go back from there. I also use the Gestalt method with the empty chairs, for example, when people have both bodily complaints or. Yeah. Physical complaints or also subpersonalities. You know, you take the different chairs for the different personalities or the complaints, which always turn out to be a personality or past life or a child. Child part or sometimes external energies. And you find that more as well. I like to sort of play with it, yeah.

That is very interesting. I like also that you work with. Breath is very interesting.

Yeah.

Wow. Cool. Is there one favourite storey from your practise that you could share with us?

There’s many interesting storeys, but I think the ones that remain with you the most are from the early practise, the ones that went really deep. So there was one young man that came here around his 20s and he came to the Netherlands to study. I think he was from India, or at least Hindu background. And once he got here to study, he couldn’t do much. He. You know, he was depressed and he was surprised by himself. I’m not like that normally, he said so. And even he had thoughts. Like when he went on a big. On a high building, a high tower, there was a thought in his head like, why don’t you jump off? And so it was. Yeah, it was really strange to him. And his family actually asked him to do something. Something it. And that’s why he came to me and we did a session and he came into a past life where he. He was sent away by his parents because he didn’t do well in school. He was sent away to an orphanage. And during that ride to the orphanage, there was an accident and a really bad accident. He got crippled. He didn’t die, he got crippled. And he lived on for some years, but eventually he killed himself because he just couldn’t cope with it. So once we did that session, the depression was gone. He didn’t have any of those thoughts anymore. But there was something else that happened. His mother, when she heard about it, she started crying because as a child he had these incredible pains in his legs that were popping up also in the session. That’s what we started the session with, actually, that came up and she went to doctors and hospitals and so on, and no one could find anything. So she thought, oh, that’s it. White was there and he said, after the session, he had one or two days that it just came up very intensely again and then it was gone forever. So. So it was a side effect. That was quite nice.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wow. We all love the side effects. Sometimes unexpected results that. That come. Wow, that’s beautiful. My next question would be. So you are a member of Earth. You’ve been also a long time. Since when are you a member of Earth? Actually.

I think it was 2010. I was still studying and I went first to the annual convention in Clever in Germany. I’m very happy that I went there at that time because there was Roger Woolger and Mars Netherton, two of the pioneers also in this. In regression therapy. And by now, as you know, they died. So it was my. My luck to have been able to see them work still.

Yeah. Wow. And so then, since then, you’ve done a lot of things in Earth. Could you share some of your roles and activities?

Yes, I started with the membership committee. I was in there for a couple of years and then I was asked to join the PR committee. Of course, because of my background, I was a little bit reluctant at first, but then I’m like, okay, I like Earth, so I’ll do that. I’m still in the PR committee now. I’ve been chair when I was a board member. I’ve been four years board member of Earth, treasurer of Earth, and I was then chair of the PR committee and now I’m just member of the PR committee. And I’m in the financial committee also for a while as a chair and now as a member.

It’s a lot of things. Very active.

Yes, the board period was very active. Now I’m not the most active in the committees anymore, but I’d like to contribute because I think Earth is really beautiful organisation and yeah, we need. We need people to. To help getting it going. Right?

Yes. Yes. Is there anything you think that the Earth still is. Is important for Earth to continue doing or maybe do more or add?

Yeah. Well, I think the main thing of Earth is the connection between different schools, different countries. We all have different approaches and we can learn from each other and we all share the same passion. I think there’s not that many professions where people are so excited about regression therapy, but I think that is what we have in common throughout the association.

True. Yeah. The connection is most important. Yes. All right. Is there any message that you would like to. Or anything you would like to say to the fellow members of Earth and the therapists?

Yeah. So keep going. What. You keep doing what you’re doing, I think we’re doing very deep, very profound work. We’re helping people to heal. And even though we’re not always understood outside our circles. Yeah, we need to keep doing this. And you know, people will. Are healing from. From severe problems, even physical problems sometimes. And relationships heal. People get more in touch with themselves. And so we make the world, little by little, a bit better place.

Yes, we should continue that. All right, I’m just gonna finish up with one question. Is there something that in your life as a therapist or just as you, that you still haven’t realised but you dream about doing?

Well, I’ve been. I have done some workshops abroad. I would like to do some more and maybe a bit further ahead in the future. I’m dreaming of maybe a retreat centre somewhere in a beautiful place. And. Most wonderful would be in a bit of a warm place.

Of course.

Yeah.

So I wish you very best of luck to achieve that.

Thank you.

Thank you very much for joining us today. And I hope everyone will enjoy this interview with Janine. And again, you might be next. And that will lead me to my last question.

I would like to propose to interview Yasmin Toccatli. Yeah. Because Yasmine, she’s been active in Earth from the beginning. She’s been one of the co founders of Earth. And yeah, she’s very active in Earth and she’s a very lovely personality. Always, always willing to help. And if there is some tension here or there, she, she will try to soothe it. And she. Yeah, she listens to everyone and. And she is quite modest in Earth. She always does her work behind the screens, but she does a lot for Earth. So I think she’s good. She should be a bit more in the picture.

All right, so we will do that. Thanks a lot for bringing her. And again, thank you so much for your time, great storeys and for your sharing. And we hopefully see you also this September.

I’m not sure yet, but I hope so too.

We hope to see everybody, all of you, and also Eugene and once again, thank you very much.

Okay, thank you to Anna and bye to everyone. Hope to see you soon. Yeah, bye everyone.